Twice Forged Steel Bulwark
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Planes of Power38 posts
Got one of these a few weeks ago with my 65 pally. I use this shield and a Blackblade of the Rain. Pretty nice combo, I'm happy with it. Have killed this guy sooooo many times. These things rot all the time when our guild raids here. Not as much as the Blackblade of the Rain rots, but hey, it still does =P
4 posts
This is a good shield for sk/pali, but wars should pass on this one. Warriors have a much nicer war only shield in air tower. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17788
If your gonna MT raid and high end mobs (gates, ep, etc.) and dual wield you should think about getting a shield with furious bash. The riposte damage from those types of mobs is to high to offset the dps you are doing from off hand weapon. The aggro modifier from the Stormrider Carapiece, hps, and ac more than makes up for the lack of offhand weapon. The Zek Crested Buckler is a good option in the meantime if no luck with air tower or other FB shields, can usually be found in the bazaar pretty cheap.
Edited, Thu Aug 26 12:10:31 2004
If your gonna MT raid and high end mobs (gates, ep, etc.) and dual wield you should think about getting a shield with furious bash. The riposte damage from those types of mobs is to high to offset the dps you are doing from off hand weapon. The aggro modifier from the Stormrider Carapiece, hps, and ac more than makes up for the lack of offhand weapon. The Zek Crested Buckler is a good option in the meantime if no luck with air tower or other FB shields, can usually be found in the bazaar pretty cheap.
Edited, Thu Aug 26 12:10:31 2004
15 posts
Is this shield rare? Also is it hard to get?
And one last thing...besides it looking like a tacticans bulwark, is it big or small or does it have any designs on it?
Thanks again everyone!
And one last thing...besides it looking like a tacticans bulwark, is it big or small or does it have any designs on it?
Thanks again everyone!
28 posts
It's rare and odd, but I just got this as my Ranger. Single-grouped Eindride, dropped Mantle and this. Seeing as I was the only one in the group who could use the shield, I took it (having lost on mantle). Trying to decide whether this or Swiftwind would be better. I have EQ/AM3, and do Archery 90% of the time I fight, so dual wield isn't an issue. This has same str, better dex, AC, HP and Resists than Swiftwind, but Swiftwind has one big aspect: 40% haste/30 ATK. Which would be better for my normal offhand? I have haste almost always when I group, but losing the ATK might be worse than the stats I gain from the shield.
24 posts
only reason a ranger should consider ditching swiftwind out, is when they have another 40 or 41% haste item. and even then, it is foolish to drop out 1 handed weapon for a shield as a ranger.
but why bother with a shield? if you get engaged in melee combat, you might as well be fully prepared to respond without having to switch out a stupid shield for your off hand weapon.
but why bother with a shield? if you get engaged in melee combat, you might as well be fully prepared to respond without having to switch out a stupid shield for your off hand weapon.
34 posts
Suggesting that you should bag you epic 40 haste item for this is ridiculous.
You can have the following haste via items/buff.
41 Haste - Item
Bard Haste Song
Enchanter/Shaman spell haste
Even though you say you use bow 90% of the time that 40 worn haste still affects your attack rate with your bow...keep the epic.
You can have the following haste via items/buff.
41 Haste - Item
Bard Haste Song
Enchanter/Shaman spell haste
Even though you say you use bow 90% of the time that 40 worn haste still affects your attack rate with your bow...keep the epic.
13 posts
Nice shield, I bid on it for it's resists. SV p/d is really hard to get compared to others. I now have all resists except poison over 100, and svp is sitting at 90.
Would have been nice if it had int/wis. I lost a little mana by using this shield over Sheild of the Protector, but I gained HP/AC and needed resists so no big deal. If my wis was over 200 this shield would give more mana than SotP I think.
Would have been nice if it had int/wis. I lost a little mana by using this shield over Sheild of the Protector, but I gained HP/AC and needed resists so no big deal. If my wis was over 200 this shield would give more mana than SotP I think.
40 posts
I'd use this offhand with the Thunderous Drum in prim hand if I was throwing 4 chants on the mob. AC and the saves are nice :P And like other post says, can use the epic with it as well.
Fun fun
Fun fun
40 posts
I'd use this offhand with the Thunderous Drum in prim hand if I was throwing 4 chants on the mob. AC and the saves are nice :P And like other post says, can use the epic with it as well.
Fun fun
Fun fun
7 posts
Bleh..
am a bard..
am using this now :D
match with my singing short sword ..
Bombom Bombom
Bard of Ayonae Ro
am a bard..
am using this now :D
match with my singing short sword ..
Bombom Bombom
Bard of Ayonae Ro
5 posts
hey, shields for warriors are never a good idea. Shields suck. warriors should be doing one of two things: using a heavy hitting 2hander or using 2 fast as madness 1 handers. and dps?? warrior dps is probably as good if not better than any other pure melee. you put me in the arena with any sk / paladin /ranger / rogue / monk and dont allow them to cast spells I will win every time. It wont even be close. My dps is solid, my ac is huge, my hps are many. I am a killer.
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you put me in the arena with any sk / paladin /ranger / rogue / monk and dont allow them to cast spells I will win every time. It wont even be close. My dps is solid, my ac is huge, my hps are many. I am a killer
That is laughable... That's like getting in the ring with Lenox Lewis and saying, "If you don't punch me, grab me, kick me, or even breath -- I'll beat your ***!" Give me a break, you dingleberry. Your DPS doesn't mean jack when you are trying to catch me, but can't because you are snared - Your AC doesn't block my spells - And your HP's will only become my HP's when I life tap your pathetic soul into next month. You are semi-right though... You are a killer, but I think that's your breath.
10 posts
You are wrong in some aspects, especially in high end encounters. Warriors can use 2-handers and weapon/shield combinations to reduce the number of ripostes from the mobs, and the extra mitigation from the shield is welcome for the tough encounters. The reason for this is that a raid attempting a boss mob is usually well prepared to handle the situation if nothing unexpected happens. Having a warrior constantly maximising his/her dps (probably less than 1% of the raid's total dps) comes with a cost, namely ripostes. 2-3 ripostes and a flurry or similar from the boss and the MT is down. Once aggro is established, the tank's job is to maintain aggro without dying. Reducing the risk of unexpected damage peaks is part of that.
3 posts
Dear Petrav - you are a tard
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 24 2004 at 7:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You, sir, are a moron.
35 posts
in all reality, if youre in an arena against a pally or SK or something along the lines of that... do you really think youre gonna stop that pally from stunning the hell out of you, or that SK from life tapping you to death?
your dps may be solid, your ac may be insane, your hp's may be out of this world... how are your resists?
your dps may be solid, your ac may be insane, your hp's may be out of this world... how are your resists?
1 post
Sorry this is really bugging me, duel = fight, dual = 2. hence dual weild) not duel weild
Wish this had some kind of mod to it, such as +5% to bash, dodge, parry...etc.
The shield from HOH trial dragon has Furious Bash on it (aggro increaser).
The shield from HOH trial dragon has Furious Bash on it (aggro increaser).
Well AC on a shield increases Bash damage, so it does have a very nice Mod.
Bash damage is capped at AC 25.
9 posts
Actually, with the insane riposte damage that is being done by PoP boss mobs, I dont' think seeing a warrior MT w. a shield is all that bad an idea.
AC means something these days, and w. a good one hander EB weapon and this sheild to bash, an MT should take less damage and not eat as many riposts.
AC means something these days, and w. a good one hander EB weapon and this sheild to bash, an MT should take less damage and not eat as many riposts.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 15 2003 at 1:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Paly / sk yes........warrior? hell no....
I think everyone keeps forgetting that a guild may have more than 1 warrior per mob tanking, you could easily get an extra warrior and have him using a shield to be ready to /shield someone if needed since warrior dps isn't huge, but in all actuality, it's not very concievable.
I'd expect a pal/sk to be gettin this first unless they've all got equal or better.
I'd expect a pal/sk to be gettin this first unless they've all got equal or better.
22 posts
high end warriors need to loot a decent shield somewhere along the line, too. based on some parses, a 50ish ac shield will reduce the damage taken over the duration of /shield by 25%. Pretty impressive.
A warrior will never use a shield. His job is aggro...aggro comes from damage. In most of the situations where you would need to swap it out it would take too long to effectively use the /shield command to any effect. I constantly use my /shield command...nearly every fight in fact. Anyone takes aggro from me I immediately hit my /shield hotbutton and try to keep the damage and aggro coming my way. I am also told by everyone that I use it on that I am the only warrior to ever use the new skill to help them out...most are really jazzed that a warrior even exercises the ability to use it. Hehe in fact using this skill alone has impressed quite a few people, the offers to join guilds after grouping when using that skill to its utmost is actually kind of funny.
So in short dont hesitate to use your /shield command. It is yet another tool for us to dazzle the naysayers and to more effectively do our jobs!
Of another note...I dunno who relies upon their kick skill to stun...I being a large race warrior keep bash/kick hotbuttons right next to each other in case of the need to swap their usage. Kick does not stun reliably enough but my warrior is only 55 so it may get better as I go. I have a lower ranger tho and no bash sucks big...caster mobs my warrior could easily solo send the ranger packing quickly!
Gammal
So in short dont hesitate to use your /shield command. It is yet another tool for us to dazzle the naysayers and to more effectively do our jobs!
Of another note...I dunno who relies upon their kick skill to stun...I being a large race warrior keep bash/kick hotbuttons right next to each other in case of the need to swap their usage. Kick does not stun reliably enough but my warrior is only 55 so it may get better as I go. I have a lower ranger tho and no bash sucks big...caster mobs my warrior could easily solo send the ranger packing quickly!
Gammal
19 posts
Since when does a warrior have to have a shield equipped to use the /shield command? The /shield command uses the warrior as a shield, not the shield you have equipped. That is what this posts reads as.
Originally, using a shield while doing the /shield command should have reduced the damage the shielding warrior gets by the AC of the shield up to a max of 50 AC.
But SOE screwed up and a shield doesn't reduce the incoming damage in combination with /shield right now. They said they are fixing it a few months ago but it's still not working as far as I know.
But SOE screwed up and a shield doesn't reduce the incoming damage in combination with /shield right now. They said they are fixing it a few months ago but it's still not working as far as I know.
46 posts
So..your saying you would not shield the MT on your raid if he/she was about dead and CH was a second away? I know the Warriors in my guild do..helps a lot..some of them even use sheilds at that time (and that time only). Just my 2 cp..
Risk
Risk
i wouldnt expect to see this for a warrior . especialy a MT that needs to do damage to keep agro.
just my opinion.
just my opinion.
I figured this would be SK Pally all the way.
Would the warrior still hold aggro as well though when the MT?
The /shield "discipline" for warriors has a re-use delay of about three minutes, and it has a duration of maybe 20 seconds or so, but these numbers can change with some AA work. The warrior probably won't be using /shield under normal circumstances, so they would probably not equip a shield most of the time. However, when things go badly, and the wrong monster is hitting the wrong person at the wrong time, then the warrior can /shield that person to absorb a good deal of the damage. This can buy time for that crucial heal on the enchanter that pulled agro, or protect a cleric long enough to taunt the monster off. The /shield discipline may even have some raid-type applications, if anyone ever gets around to exploring the discipline more in those situations.
I look at the /shield discipline as a "Lay Hands" type of thing for warriors: most of the time they will only use it in an emergency to save someone's life, but under some very specific controlled circumstances they may simply use it to make a fight easier.
Either way, if nobody else wants this shield, a warrior could get some very specific use out of it. If nothing else, you could always just use it to bash monsters if you don't have the slam ability. Personally I think most warriors should always keep a shield handy anyway, to bash those caster mobs when necessary: "Hey, warrior, use bash on those clerics!" - "I'm a warrior, I don't use bash." - "I'm a druid. When that cleric mob casts complete healing because you didn't bash him, and then he proceeds to kill you, I won't be able to resurrect you later, nor will I be able to summon your corpse."
I look at the /shield discipline as a "Lay Hands" type of thing for warriors: most of the time they will only use it in an emergency to save someone's life, but under some very specific controlled circumstances they may simply use it to make a fight easier.
Either way, if nobody else wants this shield, a warrior could get some very specific use out of it. If nothing else, you could always just use it to bash monsters if you don't have the slam ability. Personally I think most warriors should always keep a shield handy anyway, to bash those caster mobs when necessary: "Hey, warrior, use bash on those clerics!" - "I'm a warrior, I don't use bash." - "I'm a druid. When that cleric mob casts complete healing because you didn't bash him, and then he proceeds to kill you, I won't be able to resurrect you later, nor will I be able to summon your corpse."
Well given where this drops, wouldn't most Warriors present be post 55? In that case their kick would also have a stun component to it. You're right though, for a non-large Warrior, having a shield is a good idea till 55. Shield and/or a weapon that procs stun.
Scholar
32 posts
They fixed bash so you'll see more pallies and Sks with shields. I got a 24 dam 24 del 1hs so I'd love a decent shield with bash my DPS didn't drop one bit in fact it increased.
25 posts
Too bad the stupid thing will rot.
At the level that you get this I have never seen any of those classes using a shield. Ever. Add 10 wis and let clerics, druids, shammies, and beastlords loot. Then it will at least not rot or be the booby prize of the evening.
At the level that you get this I have never seen any of those classes using a shield. Ever. Add 10 wis and let clerics, druids, shammies, and beastlords loot. Then it will at least not rot or be the booby prize of the evening.
I am just waiting for the Rogue willing to offhand this ;) I mean come on, an archery Ranger is a stretch and all but no Rogue is even going to swap this in while pulling.
Ah well, I ought not to complain about the tags I guess. It isn't like it matters that more than Pal/Bard/SK are flagged. (Bards usually have the epic offhand at this point anyways, even pulling, and the vast majority of Pally/SKs are 2HS also.)
/shrug
Ah well, I ought not to complain about the tags I guess. It isn't like it matters that more than Pal/Bard/SK are flagged. (Bards usually have the epic offhand at this point anyways, even pulling, and the vast majority of Pally/SKs are 2HS also.)
/shrug
are you thick headed? I see pally's and SK's using shields at lvl 65 all the time. great to interupt casting or for the occasional stun so the main tank takes some less damage, especialy against tougher mobs that hit REALLY hard. sure they dont use 1hs/p/b 24/7 but they do use it in certain situations. the AC on this shield does rock. not the best shield, wouldnt mind my SK using one though
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